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title: "Not Until You've Done Your Practice: The classic survival guide for kids who are learning a musical instrument, but hate practicing"
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# Not Until You've Done Your Practice: The classic survival guide for kids who are learning a musical instrument, but hate practicing

**Brand:** philip johnstondavid sutton
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- **What is this?** Not Until You've Done Your Practice: The classic survival guide for kids who are learning a musical instrument, but hate practicing by philip johnstondavid sutton
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## Customer Reviews

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5.0 out of 5 stars







  
  
    make sure you agree with the principles!
  

*by G***A on Reviewed in the United States on August 19, 2011*

This is a funny book.  LOL stuff.  The pictures are great and my 11 year old very musical child read it in one evening with a lot of giggles.  THe main thrust is that it is not about time spent at the instrument, it is about outcomes.  Defined outcomes.  It would have to be said that most teachers now give absolutely abysmal  instructions and his big book, the practice revolution discusses this.  This little book sadly doesn't.  But it removes the battle of being told by one's know-it-all mother how to do it  (you can fall back on, the book says...) and it has a few ideas for challenges to make it fun.Its not rocket science.  My first piano teacher acually did teach pretty much all that he mentions automatically but that was 40 years ago.  Teachers now have less rigour and are obsessed with time not outcomes when and if they set any expectations.  It is going to be a revelation to 98% of students that you should be able to play a section without error three times in a row.  Even more of a revelation that you might go through 12 instruction cards, each without error, three times in a row before you give up for the day (on a well learnt piece).  My teacher used the pennies moving from left to right and not til 10 of them got to the right in a row one after the other were the notes learnt properly for a bar, line, page or piece.  His method is more fun and less rigorous but the same ideas!For a more serious musician it is a bit of a shock that he  suggests 10 mins at a time three times a day. And this is in the first few pages so my child really fancied that idea.  Lets face it, you are barely tuned, warmed up and ready to go by then.  But this is aimed at your average Jo primary school bod who really wants to go and watch telly.  Not someone who is working on a concerto  for a big concert or orchestra piece who would presumably appreciate that you can use the ideas but need more time at a sitting.Overall, I liked it. I agree about outcome basis being better than time but I think you would struggle to reach any of his outcomes in a 10 min session so its a pity he starts off naming a time.  His has a few suggestions that may seem barn door obvious (no distractions, peace and quiet, reasonable instrument, think slow then half it again, fiddle with rhythms for scales and arps etc etc) but believe me, this is not taught by vast numbers of teachers.I had to have words with our piano teacher (who gives lessons to the child alone unlike her other instrument where I sit in so I can write down what is required myself).  She writes lots more now but it is still really vague and I end up having to try and interpret what the goal actually is for the week.  I am going to give her a copy of the Practice Revolution for xmas!  Why dont I change her instead?  Cos daughter loves going and likes her.

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5.0 out of 5 stars







  
  
    Lorna
  

*by L***A on Reviewed in the United States on January 9, 2012*

Fabulously entertaining.  Could not put it down.  It was like a breath of fresh air and a real game changer in the way you think about practice and music.Have since bought it from Amazon for my Grandson  9 years old for christmas and have yet to see the results  but will inform you later on how his progress goes after reading the book.I borrowed the book from the Conservatory Library,  but wanted more in depth study of practicing so purchased "The Practice Revolution" which was advertised on the back cover of "Not until you've done your practice".Many thanks to the Author who has filled a very needed niche in music.  Will tell all my friends about the book who have Grandchildren learning music.  Another thing about the book is that it gives you a formula for approaching life and its obstacles in a more balanced and fun way.  This book is not just about music practice.Do hope the author writes more books on this subject.!!!!!!!

### ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5.0 out of 5 stars







  
  
    A great read for young students and parents alike
  

*by M***L on Reviewed in the United States on February 27, 2018*

As a music teacher myself I found this book full of many great ideas which I've immediately  been able to put to good use. It's written on two levels, one that appeals to parents and another that is simple enough for younger students to grasp. I encourage music teachers, parents of young students and anyone having trouble with practicing to buy this book (and many of Phillip Johnston's other works).

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