Powermatic 2 Electric Cigarette Injector Machine

So, let me start out saying that if you can quit then you should! That being said, I've been a smoker of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars for 20 years. Sad, I know. However, this thing is slicker than snot! Works awesome! There were quite a few questions that I had before purchasing this machine that I could not find anywhere on the internet, so I thought that I would try to answer them here and it may help you. 1. Does pipe tobacco taste and feel like cigarette tobacco? Well, yes and no. If you have ever smoked a pipe or a cigar then you know how harsh the "throat feel" and "mouth feel" can be. If you order a bagged tobacco like "The Good Stuff" Gold or "Gambler" Gold then it is extremely close to light cigarette tobacco. Does it taste exactly like a Maralboro? No, not quite. But darn close. Close enough where I will roll my own from now on. 2. Does it take a lot of time? No. I learned how much to pack into the machine very quickly. I experimented with about 5 cigarettes on how much to pack into the machine. Feeling a Maralboro cigarette's firmness against the RYO product. You learn very quickly how much pressure is need to make a butt. It took me about an hour to make 100 cigarettes and I got very fast towards the end. So I'm sure my next 100 will be much faster. 3. How cost effective is it? I made 5 packs in 1 hour (and I will get much faster) for about $1.85 a pack. Cigarettes in Maine are about $8.00 a pack, so you do the math where you life. 4. How is the machine? Very easy!! Its very slick and works awesome. I bought it based on the reviews on amazon. It got here in 24 hours. It is fairly heavy and requires very little effort to operate. Seems well constructed. The side pan isn't really necessary. I make cigs on a cookie sheet pan to catch the loose tobacco and reuse it later. I got down to about 5 to 6 cigs a minute in the first hour. 5. What cigarette tubes and tobacco should I order? Well, this is only my opinion and not fact. I went with Gambler Red king filters and a 6 oz back of "The Good Stuff" gold and "Gambler" gold. Both seem very similar to me. I smoked Maralboro lights for many years and I don't notice enough difference to really care based on the money that I am saving. I have 1000 tubes to go through and I'm not that picky. However, I will try the Gambler Light tubes next time. The smoke I RYO is now a cross between a Maralboro Red and a Maralboro Light. Once again I am not that picky given that I'm saving so much money. Bottom line: pick some tubes and tobacco and give it a shot. I've been happy with what I selected so far and will mess around with brand a little in the future. 6. Should I do it" Yes! Do it NOW! I cannot believe how long I waited to do this because I was afraid that I wouldn't like it or that it would be too much trouble. It's easy and really not that time consuming givin all of the times that I hopped in my truck or stopped on my way to and from work to grab a pack of smokes. I feel like a fool for not doing this years ago. Do it! Massive savings!

So far so good on this unit. Ive already shot about 2 cartons worth of cigarettes and I havent experianced a jam yet. This is a pretty self explanitory machine. You can tell when you got too much tobacco in the chamber... it just doesnt feel right and it will look over full. If there is tobacco extending past the cutter line after filling... you got too much. I was nervous about buying this with the amount of reviews that I had read that this was a jam prone item and it had a "Learning Curve" well, thats partially true.. but mostly only when switching from a ribbon cut to a shag cut. so generally only a tube or two lost before getting the hang of it. I actually can shoot a 100 perfectly, never have any issues with that - although I struggle with shooting a King without excessive carrot top. I have been using Zen tubes. no problems there either all working perfectly. though I do take the time to always align the glue strip of the tube with where the grabber is on the machine. That little extra thickness makes a difference I believe. I just ordered 2lbs of Venguer... we will see in a few weeks how she holds up and I will update! **Update** Good news to report so far! It has been almost one month since I have purchased the machine and the results have been amazing. I shoot one Zen box of 250 tubes in a session, Then allow the machine to cool and any remaining tobacco is brushed and blown out waiting atleast a few hours before next session. Were at 7lbs of tobacco and roughly 1900 tubes have passed through the machine since we got her running, half king size and half 100s. Once supreme flavor and headache causing chemicals were gone my entire house hold jumped to the SYO/RYO train and we all take turns making our cartons for the week. Minus the few "learning" tubes that were damaged when I first got the machine, I still have yet to experiance a jam. The worst I have encountered is the occasional small piece torn off the end of the tube where the grabber holds it, and this has no effect on the sticks smoking qualitys. Still running on Zen FF tubes of both sizes. We will be soon moving to Vera Cruz Elegantes for our King sizes, as it has a more exciting look, a micro perf paper and 20mm filter, I will update on these tubes with this machine in the future. I have run through a few different tobaccos trying some low end and some high end stuff. Sparrow and Largo definitly at the low end of the spectrum, while Peter Stokkebye and Five Brothers easily sit at the top. In the end, I find D&R tobacco to be the perfect level in quality and taste for the dollar. I have grown to like the ribbon cut over the shag cut for SYO smokes. Ribbon is easy to stuff and get a consistent burn and draw almost everytime, while shag seems to need to be watched for its moisture content and its compaction in the chamber before stuffing. Just a little refrence and food for thought, This isnt perfect and more of an estimation. Using round numbers because its easier, lets look at inital investment cost. I paid 75$ for my machine, 65$ for a 12 pack of 2oz tobacco sampler kit, 55$ for 2 lbs of D&R Venguer, and 20$ for 5 boxes of Zen FF Kings. This is what we started with. So for roughly 215$ I was making my own smokes. Depending on how each cigarette is stuffed, I generally get about 2.5 to 3 cartons per pound of tobacco, so were looking at about 500 to 600 cigarettes per lb. So if I break that down to a total of 1000 smokes for my 2 original lbs - To cover my inital cost of the investment I am paying somewhere in the nature of 4.30$ a pack. Where I am at, I get my Marlboro cartons for more then 50$ each but I will use 50$ as a good start since it generally is the minimum for a carton. So what I saved not having to drive to go get packs or cartons and not paying full retail at gas stations for smokes, I have pretty much already covered my original cost within the month by not purchasing my normal 5 cartons. That justifys the original purchase to me. So now if you figure the cost of the Cigarettes without the intial overhead cost of purchase, 55$ for 2 lbs of D&R Venguer, 20$ for 5 boxes of Zen FF Kings, we have 75$. So for 75$ you get 1000 smokes, Do the math and your looking at 1.50$ cost per pack. Now thats a price I can enjoy and all the while im smoking higher quality paper and tobacco. So for minor increases in total cost, I can get a ultra premium smoke - cheaper then any over the counter Cigarette. I will Update as the abuse to the Machine continues. Good Luck with your adventure! Smoke Happy!

What can I say, I LOVE this product!!! I have been rolling my own cigarettes for many years. I have also owned the top of the line Premier and Top-O-Matic manual rolling machines. I have also owned electric rolling machines. Here is what I have found: The electric rolling machines would not pack the tobacco properly. The cigarettes would spark and drop glowing embers (Burning holes in several of my shirts). This was a disaster. The manual rolling machines would not do well in making the perfect cigarette and would jam often. Over time, they would become too difficult for my wife to use (Takes a lot of muscle to get the cigarette's rolled). Furthermore, only around 1/2 of them would pack the cigarette to the filter properly (Leaving us with a "Floppy" cigarette). I would roll over 40 cigarettes each night before work. This would take around 30 minutes and 1/2 of them would be "Floppy. I would leave the good ones with my wife (Since she would struggle with the manual machines). My wife would often run out and buy packs at the store (At around $5 to $6 a pack. Not a happy camper! I was hesitant when I ordered this product. I saw a crank similar to those found on the manual machines. The similarity ended there! Turns out the crank exists to close the compartment safely (Not to compress the cigarettes). Was time to get a new rolling machine. Decided to pay the extra $30 for this one (Verses another top of the line manual one). What a GREAT investment! With this device, I was able to crank out over 40 cigarettes in around 5 minutes. All were perfect! Simply packed the tobacco into the ends of the machine tobacco loader and used my fingers to press the tobacco lightly. Wow! What an experience! Even my wife finds it simple and enjoyable. She now makes me pipe tobacco cigarettes and with mail order, these cost us just over $1/pack for King size. Have been using this now over a week. Perfect EVERY time. I have NEVER written a review this long, but had to for this Powermatic 2. Since these cigarettes are all perfect, I expect to recover the extra $30 in weeks (Over the top of the line manual rolling machines), and tons of time and frustration every day. I can't recommend this product enough!!! Will update this later should I experience any issue. Meanwhile, happy rolling!!! Update 8/15/2015: Well, it's been over a month since I bought this product and what can I say! I would rate this 6 stars if I could. Of over 100 products I have bought from Amazon over the years, I have never been more satisfied. Still working great!!! Word of warning. Once I used cheap tubes I bought at a local store. Thought the machine was not working properly (Found the tubes were not being perfectly filled and would sometimes tear). I then realized it might be the cheap tubes. Tried the regular ones I get and once again, worked perfectly every time. Again, this product is SO WORTH IT! Now making a perfect pack of cigarettes in less than 5 minutes. Enjoy!

I'm brand new to the world of RYO. I'm a mechanical guy by trade so I scrutinize any machine I work with and especially one I'm going to buy. Let me tell you this machine is freaking awesome! If I could give it 6 stars I would. Heck, if I could give it 10 stars, done. I'm not usually big on writing reviews, but I had to give my opinion on this machine. I did all my homework on RYO machines. Everything from the cheapest hand machine to all the electric ones I could find. I've read hundreds of reviews and watched a couple dozen videos. This machine is #1 on the list of the top 10 RYO machines out there and I see why. There are many videos out there on YouTube and elsewhere that show the operation of many of these machines, both hand-operated and electric. One video is impressive showing a man rolling a pack of smokes in 3 minutes with this machine. This machine has a jam indicator and will light up if you do jam it and the injector rod will automatically retract allowing you to make the adjustment in your packing chamber without any harm to the machine. It doesn't get better than that. I remember as a kid helping my Dad roll his own with a Laredo hand machine. Remember those? It was not a bad machine, but labor intensive to use. The key point for me with a hand-machine is that it takes two hands to operate and I saw a guy who over-packed and when he went to activate the lever he just about knocked the machine off the table and he had two hands on it! Lets talk about the cost. I don't have a problem with it. It's about 4-5 times the cost of the hand-rollers. It's worth it! If you average the cost of this machine over say 10 cartons, it will cost about 3.5 cents per cigarette. And the more you roll with it the cheaper the average will get. When it comes to my time and how long I would like to spend rolling my own, this machine is an exceptional value compared to the rest! It only took me a few cigarettes to get the hang of it and I'll tell you that I don't believe it could be any easier. The product is quality built and actually will operate at 100-240 volts if you need it to as marked on the unit itself. I can say that I'm sorry I didn't start RYO decades ago. I purchased enough supplies to roll 900 smokes to start until I find what I like based on taste. Based on all my cost to date, this machine, tobacco, filter tubes, multiple cigarette cases, rolling tray and a couple storage containers for rolled cigarettes, I'm all in at half the price per pack that I used to spend and it will only get cheaper. If you already know what you like then this machine can make your life much easier, less time rolling and more time enjoying your smokes! Back for an update. I've learned that a pack too tight can really affect the draw you get, especially if you're using a tube with a perforated filter! Hence the reason maybe that the Powermatic III+ is popular. It does almost everything for you with the push of a button. The down side for me is that cost even though now they are at the lowest price I've seen, under $250. I'm sticking with this, my current machine, and will adjust the packing for a better draw and a better burn. Happy rolling!

I have been using this to roll cigarettes, 100's. It is hard to get the 100's stuffed all the way to the filter. I keep working on it, some days it's perfect and some days not. But it is a great machine and I would buy again. It's still working and I have been using for many months. Way cheaper than buying cigarettes. I watched many videos on this, Just watched another one and learned something new that I was doing wrong. My advice, get it but keep on trying if you get frustrated. Rolls standard cigs perfectly. Get the correct tubes (some are too thin for this machine) and I love the Ohm tobacco .UPDATE: using since Feb. 2025. worked good just all of a sudden it died. Worked good until it didn't.

To me, this machine is worth it's weight in gold! We still really love it! We roll at least 4 packs a day on it everyday, so we've rolled a LOT of cigs with it over the last 11 months. BUT we did have a problem with it which is what I wanted to tell you all about in case one of you gets it, so you can avoid a lot of aggravation. Quite awhile ago, it suddenly stopped working right and wouldn't pack the tobacco all the way into the tube. There was no way we could afford another one or afford to send it to them to be fixed like they say to, so we did the only thing we could, tried to fix it ourselves. My husband took it completely apart, but didn't see anything at all wrong with it, so he cleaned it out good using a can of compressed air that we use on our computers, and put it back together again. It worked! A few months later the same thing started to happen. This time we didn't take it apart, but instead just blew air into every hole we could find and again it worked. Now we do that just whenever we think about it to keep it running smoothly. Again in a few more months the same thing happened and we did take it apart, but the only thing we've ever been able to figure is that bits of tobacco eventually build up and cause the problem. Personally, I think it gets in there through the tiny hole right in front of the lever. Part of the reason we think this is the problem is because when it acts up, you can "feel" the difference when you try to roll a cig. It "feels like" somethings in there and once that something is out, it runs just fine. Some of the tobacco that gets caught up in it can't be very big though as it's more like dust when you blow it out. Of course there's some in it big enough to see too. I think the tobacco just eventually got stuck in the worst possible place and that's what caused it to stop working. But, it's an easy fix and that's what counts. So, if you get one, which I still very much recommend, I'd suggest cleaning it with air every once in awhile, like every few weeks or once a month, just to prevent the problem. But if you wind up with it not filling the tube completely like it did to us, don't panic, just open it up and blow it all out really good. Then put it back together and you should be good to go again. Oh, I also suggest going with a good grade of tobacco. When this problem happened, just to see if there'd be a difference, we decided to try the same tobacco shown in the DVD. They say it costs a little more, but it was the same price as the one we were using before. But I can tell you that the type of tobacco you use in it does in fact make a difference. So it's worth it to get the better tobacco. It's the fine stuff that seems to get stuck and cause the problems anyway. Another thing that others also say and we also found to be true is that the brand of tubes you use also can make a big difference. I never had a problem rolling mine, but my husband's were a pain in the neck at times. He finally switched over to the same brand of tubes I use and we were both shocked at how much better they worked. They look and measure the same as the other brand, but for some reason the machine likes my brand better... so why fight it? lol Now he uses the same brand I do...they both cost the same amount anyway so it wasn't a big deal. (I use Royal Majestic tubes and get the menthol 100's; he uses the Royal Majestic tubes now too but gets the regular size non menthol for his. Then he decided to try switching to 100's so we'd always be rolling the same size and that too made a big difference. Don't know why, but each change made a very good machine even better! I'm not suggesting that these are the only tubes that work well or the only tobacco that does. I'm sure there are other brands just as good. What I'd suggest is to experiment till you find what works best for you that you like. Of course, if it's not giving you a problem with the ones you usually buy, then you don't even have to consider it. The others actually worked fine, it's just that these are even better. Oh and about how quick it works...it's fast!!!.... So it's a great little machine! Even with the problem we had, I'd still give it 5 stars!

As with one of the previous reviews, I've had some lengthy experience with one of the hand-cranked tube feeders. Mine is the Top-O-Matic, and seems i had similar disappointments for some time, until I ordered a hand roller, which let me figure I had nothing to lose trying to tweak it a bit. Still, not perfect, trying to get that tobacco all the way to the filter of a 100mm didn't seem to be in the design, although when i first got it, I had to use King Sized tubes, which after some amount of learning curve I was able to pack pretty well. After some time, and looking into other products, reading reviews to be sure I was getting something worth the money, I stumbled on a review that helped to more closely resolve that problem getting the tobacco closer to the filter. Now, there's something needed to be said about the tobacco being used; then of course it also seems moisture, dryness, even current air conditions, such as humidity all seem to factor in when trying to use any sort of tube roller. I even bought one of those pocket size models, another "Top" product - best thing to come out of that was the spatula that it comes with (very handy packing tool - that, and a good set of tweezers). At first, I was using cigarette tobacco, and after doing the math, it seemed I was mostly doing this rolling as a hobby, because if I was to pay myself the difference of buying already made cigarettes, and the efforts of making them, I certainly would have been better off getting a second job on the cheap and just buying already made ones, instead. Then I started trying the "dual-purpose" tobaccos, and have experimented extensively, pretty certain there are several out there that are even easier to work with than cigarette tobacco, I've found a few I like, but most of that is a bit of personal taste, so I'd recommend doing some amount of research in that vein, to anyone: it's brought the math into better perspective, such that by making a couple packs an hour makes it worthwhile, and I can do that on the hand crank, so guess it's all good, now. The thing that helped with the hand cranks, getting closer to the tip: well, there's a few things that was left out in that review, but i already realized after so many bags of tobacco that there's always going to be very small particles for a good percentage of the bottom to every bag, so i would save that to be used as "filler", just to mix it in with that half of the cigarette closer to the filter, and use only the largest particles for the opened end of the tube, where you would light it. The added review that helped get to the tip, can't quote word for word, but was easy enough, once it got mentioned to be an epiphany that has helped immensely using hand-cranks: "preload the tip" was about all it had to say - put some of the smaller particles into the well area, not a lot, but enough to fill up that tip area that sticks out where you're going to hang your tube onto - push that little bit towards the exit without having a tube on it, but block it (it's not safe to have fingers there, but i would, and when i felt the spoon making gentle contact I'd just pull back) - now i got a little extra tobacco where I'll need it, to get closer to the tip. Doesn't guarantee to make it, and usually still had to pack and pinch it down a bit, but it was a lot better after starting to do that, than before without the preload. Now, this electric; had lots of reservations here. The reviews were fair, and i felt badly for that guy that had it always jamming and breaking, but to be honest I have assume he had some factors working against him, those of us with some more experience have probably figured on. Otherwise, my worst fear was getting it to load a 100mm, without being able to preload as described above with the hand crank. After that epiphany, for my hand-cranker, it was pretty clear an electric would not be as easily controlled that i could just have it stop where i wanted, to do that preload, and then fill the well for packing into the 100mm tubes. I suppose, one of the factors not yet mentioned, are the tubes themselves; while there are really not a lot of varieties to fulfill my desire for Menthol 100mm, and i still struggled often with what was locally available. Online, I finally found "Zen" brand tubes, and am so grateful I did - another review once mentioned how the use of tubes being 20mm wide was too small, well, I guess I found what that guy was looking for - wider tubes - BIG difference, even with the hand crank. Well, I was feeling as prepared as i could be, and hoped for the best - so, I have to say, i think i found it! I have had this machine, barely 24 hours now, and I've packed at least a half of a cartons worth of cigarettes. Scared myself a couple times when i jammed it, but to be honest, a well packed cigarette will be "riding a fine line" to what might jam a machine, so you just have to get a feel for it. But MAN!, I have never put out so many perfect cigarettes before, since i got this Powermatic 2 Electric. Wasn't setting any records, but then, when I ever got that first one off the end, and realized it was hardly going to need any tapping - many don't need anything more than to just set them with the rest of the well made cigarettes: they come out as well as ones you pay $8 a pack for (in this area), and now I'm saving enough that this machine will pay for itself, long before I'm done using it. I am sorry about this lengthy review, but i wanted to be sure you understood this is just another person, trying to save a buck, and being fair about how I feel about this product, and not someone who makes money off the sale of these items. Over time, and trials, I've learned a few things, tips and tricks i thought worth sharing, as much as the review itself. Okay, well maybe 24 hours and half a carton of cigarettes isn't enough experience with this much of an investment, to many of you; but for me, I'm pretty confident now I'll have no trouble making lots of very nice quality cigarettes, and as i said, have the machine pay for itself, over time (haven't done the math yet, but that hand-cranked one was already working at a profit too - so I'm not worried). I've seen some of the electrics, wanting $200 to $500 for their machine, and honestly, I can't see how those would be any better, especially since it's all just one cigarette at a time. And clearly, the reviews for some I just couldn't trust, as being from someone like myself who really did buy and use the product. Oh, BTW, I did have a chance to try one of those "multi-cigarette making electrics" as well (in fact got one just a few hours after this one arrived - worst nightmare) that little pocket portable tube cigarette maker works better than what I've found trying to use the "two cigarettes at once electric" i got, and the "three cigarette" one I've seen works on the same principle, so not going to bother that one. I'm perfectly happy with the Powermatic 2 Electric, and intend to be using this for a very long time. :-) (dlm)

I bought this injector after first purchasing a manual device (Premiere Supermatic) for $40 bought locally. I was happy with the Premiere but after some use got tired of constantly having to reach into the tub for more tobacco, not to mention there being no holding hopper on that machine. It makes good cigarettes but it is slow going; not as slow as one of the little handheld injectors they sell for $5, but the workflow is still pretty herky jerky. Anyway, I resolved to get an electric model. I evaluated the Poweroll: http://www.amazon.com/PoweRoll-TOP-O-Matic-Electric-Cigarette-Machine/dp/B00HMTTTR2/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1399568430&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=PoweRoll+by+TOP-O-Matic but eliminated it, along with the Fresh Choice: http://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Choice-Electric-Cigarette-Machine/dp/B001MRV0MM because neither one of them is advertised to make 100mm smokes. The Powermatic II+ can, and does, capably handle 100mm tubes. Unlike the manual Premiere I mentioned above which offers different selections that alter the length of the stroke of the injector via a mechanical setting, the Powermatic II+ sort of splits the difference and will give you a long pack on a king size tube and a slightly short pack on 100s. This is fine by me as it allows me to fit the smokes into my hard packs easier. Primarily what I like about this machine is the improved workflow. Instead of just a small grab of tobacco to make one smoke, you can fit the hopper extension (standard equipment on this model) on this thing and put a decent bolus of tobacco there, then as you make the smokes, you just rake some down to the chamber, tamp it lightly, then pull the actuator lever down to cycle out your smoke. It works well. Left hand grabs the tubes, right hand tamps the tobacco, only pausing to refill the hopper after 4 to 5 smokes have been rapidly made. I am happy with the smokes. You can pack them pretty tightly if you prefer, but I like a medium pack. It gets the tobacco all the way down to the filter without any problems and seems to not have any trouble with my coarser cut filler. (I buy whole leaf tobacco and shred it myself with a spaghetti cutter and a micro cut paper shredder I modified for the job.) Anyway, about the only thing with this, or any injector, is getting a feel for how tightly you want to tamp the tobacco into the chamber. If you over-tamp this thing it will jam. Jams are not too much of an issue with me; I have only had two, and the funny thing is I pretty much knew that it was going to be too much when I pulled the lever. If you do get a jam, just don't let any more tobacco fall down into the chamber when you lift the lever, and so long as you didn't let any more fall in there you will likely get it clear with a second cycle. If not, there is a little rod supplied to clean out the chamber. My impression of the machine is quality and smoothness. It is quiet and quick. Were I to mention any drawbacks I would say that there is a bit of a tendency for excess tobacco to collect around the injector pipe where you fit your ryo tubes. All you have to do is blow it out of there, but if too much collects it can get in the way of fitting your tubes. So far I have made about 150 smokes with this thing and my guess is I can make about 3 cigarettes in the time it takes me to make one with the manual machine. All that faster to the grave I suppose, given smoking's risks, but I am quite happy with this machine. It will make rolling day much more productive.