When used properly as a training tool, can you eventually get to the point where the dog no longer needs to wear the collar?

Another really important thing to do with this collar is make sure the dog does NOT equate this collar with the stimulation. It is suggested to put it on in the morning and take it off before bed, not just put it on before/after walk or events with them especially when first training them with it. When I was training my dog I had a specific whistle which gave him about 3 seconds to respond before the vibration went off. Now when I make that sound he responds immediately without the need to send a signal. My hope is that in his head I was warning him of the sensation prior to it happening, not the one causing it. I still use his collar after a year but have only used the vibration a handful of times this last year—depending on the dog and trainer the collar might only need to be used temporarily.

guys.. Im really keen to buy this product but I wanted to know if this can be used for a Golden Retriever dog (85lb)...

Yes, although described as a "mini" this e-collar will work for most dogs if used correctly. You might need to shave a small patch for the collar to make contact. If you haven't done so, please watch the leerburg videos on using the e-collar, particularly the one by Micheal Ellis. The dog needs to learn behavior that stops the stimulation. If introduced correctly, i.e., the dog learns that he has control of the stimulation, the e-collar works for most dogs. I have used this collar on several large dogs including several Golden Retrievers and Labradors with success.Peace and Be WellJack

Will the ET-302TS work well for bigger dogs around 50-60 pounds?

Yes! My dog is around 25 lbs and I cut about 10 inches off of the adjustable collar-almost enough to make another collar. I have only had to use the correction levels up to 26, so there are plenty of levels higher for those bigger or more stubborn dogs. I've been working with a dog trainer to help me give the correction at the right time and used a leash for the first 3 weeks. Using the leash helped me guide my dog into the preferred behavior immediately after the correction so she was not confused as to why she was just corrected. It has completely transformed my dog's behavior and I'm very pleased with the product. If this is your fist electronic collar please make sure you get some tips or work with a trainer. If you do not guide your dog into the behavior you want you will get a very anxious dog afraid to move or do anything. That was my only complaint with this product-in needed some tips for newbies like me. You will love your "new" dog!

Does this system allow you to vibrate or shock both dogs at the same time?

This is not a shock collar. This collar is actually shock resistant. It is similar to a TENS unit to where it creates basically a muscle spasm. No reputable trainer will recommend a shock collar, as they are painful for dogs.

Pattern	Dog
Colour	black
Material	Biothane Collar Strap
Brand	Educator
Item Display Dimensions	30 x 117 Millimeters
Closure Type	Buckle
Product Dimensions	76.2L x 2.5W Centimeters
Breed Recommendation	LargeBreeds
Included Components	1" x 30" collar, Battery charger, Receiver, Test light, Transmitter with lanyard and belt clip
Number of Items	1
Net Quantity	1 Count
Dog Breed Size	Large
Style	1 Mile 1 Dog
Manufacturer	E-Collar Technologies
Size	1 Mile 1 Dog
UPC	855092003312
Global Trade Identification Number	00855092003312
Country of Origin	USA
Item model number	ET-800
ASIN	B009PVKVSG

Educator ET-800 Big Dog 1 Mile E-Collar Remote Dog Training Collar with Vibration and Tapping Sensation

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